August 20, 1998
Connie Willis
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Connie Willis has received six Nebula Awards and five Hugo Awards for her fiction, and the John W. Campbell Award for her first novel, Lincoln's Dreams. Her first short story collection, Fire Watch, was a New York Times Notable Book, and her novel, Doomsday Book, won the Nebula and Hugo Awards. She is also the author of Impossible Things, a short story collection, Uncharted Territory, and Remake. Ms. Willis lives in Greeley, Colorado, with her family.
BlackCyberC Welcome to Cybling, with special guest Connie Willis!
Connie_Willis I have just finished driving all the way across this continent! I'm moving my daughter into her new apartment.
Gardner We don't want excuses! We want stories! (g)
Connie_Willis My brain is not functioning on more than two cylinders. But the novella is coming. I promise! It's coming! It's coming!
Gardner Hey, even at only two cylinders, you're still doing better than ME! (g)
Sheila Did you find any knew story material on the trip.
Gardner But then, I don't need to be brilliant, I'm only the editor--YOU need to be brilliant!
Connie_Willis Yes. I got a great idea for a short story about based on the fact that truckers now are listening to audio books. And it occurred to me that they may well be the next literate generation which could produce some interesting consequences for literary criticism, academia , etc.
Gardner Sounds interesting, Connie.
Sheila Connie, what are your most recent awards
BlackCyberC Connie, would you like to introduce yourself
Connie_Willis Hi. I'm Connie Willis. I'm really tired. I write science fiction and have been doing so since the late Cretaceous.
Gardner You could call them "Truckerpunks," perhaps.
Sheila Do you deal with timelapse?
Connie_Willis I won the Locus award this year about a month ago, for a short story :"Newsletter" which of course appeared in Asimov's. And was about body snatchers taking over humans and making them behave much more pleasantly than they normally do. And last year.
Gardner Most people probably know who you are by now, I would think. You've won more awards than any other writer in SF history!
Sheila Are you working on a new novel?
Connie_Willis I won a Hugo for my Emily Dickinson story also which appeared in Asimov's, "The Soul Selects Her Own Society." A story about E. Dickinson in contact with H.G. Welles' Martians. I have won six Hugos and six Nebulas, let's see, I think that's right.
Gardner How many Hugos have you won by this point?
BlackCyberC What was the first award you received?
Connie_Willis Lots. But as I tell people I need a lot because I'm saving them up for Harrison Ford. I won...
Gardner She even tries to get OTHER people to lend her Hugos to trade in for Harrison Ford. (g)
Connie_Willis Two Nebulas in 1982 for FIREWATCH and for A LETTER FROM CLEARYS. LOL. That's true. But it takes a lot to get Harrison Ford.
Gardner I'm not sure I understand what's in this deal for ME...
Connie_Willis With the number of Hugos I have now, I have been told I could trade them in on Keanu Reeves.
Gardner Yeah, but then you'd have to feed him and clean up after him!
BlackCyberC LOL
Connie_Willis LOL. Stories. I'll send you my Novella.
Sheila Well, you need to write another big novella for us
Gardner You write the novella, Connie, I'll think about giving you my Hugos...
Sheila so you can add to your collection
Connie_Willis OK. How many Hugos actually will you loan me Gardner, a dozen? You could loan me 6 or 10 without even noticing it.
Gardner Couldn't do it, Connie, I've only got ten.
TechCyberC ROFL!
Connie_Willis Oh, ok.
Gardner You could get some from Charlie Brown; he'd never notice they were gone.
Connie_Willis I've already tried that.
BlackCyberC Connie, Who is your biggest influence?
Gardner OTHER than Harrison Ford!
BlackCyberC HA!
Connie_Willis Well, I think Heinlein is probably the biggest influence on my writing. I love his sense of humor his down to earth approach to the future and his clever plots. But my role model for life, in general, is Fred Astaire.
Gardner Does it ever strike you that you've won more awards than Heinlein? And that Fred Astaire has won no Hugos at all?
Connie_Willis Well, only 2 because they didn't start giving these awards until after he'd written most of his great stuff. He definitely deserved them and Nebulas for HAVE SPACESUIT WILL TRAVEL, TIME FOR THE STARS, CITIZEN OF THE GALAXY, THE STAR BEAST, TUNNEL IN THE SKY, AND DOOR INTO SUMMER and a bunch of others probably that I'm forgetting. Everybody knows he's the best writer that ever lived.
Gardner Good stuff. He DID win for THE MOON IS A HARSH MISTRESS, one of my favorites. Did you ever think when you were starting out that you'd be that successful?
Connie_Willis I had a fantasy when I was kid, and that was that I would someday get to be in a year's best SF collection. That was as far as my fantasy went. It never occurred to me that I would also win awards and get to know great people like Gardner and Sheila, and sing show tunes with Harlan Ellison.
Gardner Even better than the author of THREE MEN IN A BOAT? (g)
Sheila Are there other sf authors who influenced you
Gardner To my knowledge, the only SF writers ever to mention THREE MEN IN A BOAT are you and Heinlein. An odd bit of trivia.
Connie_Willis Sheila, most of the authors are short story writers. Like Zenna Henderson, and Kit Reed and Frederic Brown, and Shirley Jackson, and Damon Knight and lots of others I can't think of now. I love everybody's work and I love the short story more than anything. I think almost all the great SF has been written at shorter lengths.
Gardner I agree--but then, I would, wouldn't I?
Sheila which makes sense, since that's the fiction you first became famous for. I mean the authors by the way, not your opinion of your stories
BlackCyberC A welcome from Gand: Hi Connie! (I was in your KoffeeK at Bucky - thanks for signing DOOMSDAY :D) ABout LIGHT RAID - was it more you or Felicity? Why the collaboration?
Connie_Willis Cynthia Felice and I are old friends, and we have 3 books together first one Called WATER WITCH and we wrote it because we thought it would be fun to do a SF/Romance/Gothic novel. And then we thought we'd write two more for the same reason!.
Gardner Can you remember which bits you wrote and which Cynthia wrote?
Connie_Willis They're true collaborations. We hash out everything together. And the books are very different, the books I write or the books Cynthia writes. And we partly do it because it gives us a chance to see each other.
Gardner Does one of you do first draft, while the other rewrites?
Connie_Willis Gardner...I can remember the parts we fought over and I lost. But otherwise no. And usually each part has been re-written, usually the whole thing has been re-written by both of us 3 or 4 times. Gardner...we trade off writing chapters. I write a chapter, she writes a chapter. And then we both re-write each other's chapters. About half-way through the novel, we get completely off track, and have to throw out huge chunks and have to start over.
Sheila What's your next solo novel about
Connie_Willis Sheila, my new novel that I'm working on is a ... oh.. a sort of sort of a fantasy novel...and a medical thriller, and a book about near-death experiences. It's called... WORKING CAPE RACE.
Sheila fantasy is unusual for you
Connie_Willis And I hope it will feel a little bit like a Twilight Episode, and a little like a Charles Williams novel.
Gardner You should rework those huge chunks of novel you throw away into short stories and sell them to US! I hate to see material wasted!
BlackCyberC The next question comes from Mark Connie, I'm interested in knowing your opinion on the feminist wave that's been on the scene... do you see a point in near-future where women will really say, "We've had enough!" and bring about a renaissance of humanity's dealing with itself?
Connie_Willis Mark...I'm really don't pay any attention to movements when I'm writing. I just write what I'm interested in, and yeah, I do sometimes get irritated with excesses of the radical feminists. Like I do with excesses of everyone else. And like to poke fun at those excesses. The group I want to poke fun at now is that wonderful group of animal rights activists...who released the 6,000 minks, on the unsuspecting English countryside. And now they're busily devouring endangered species and attacking babies in their cradles. I love, I love stories like that.
Sheila You've been after nonsmokers lately too
Connie_Willis Sheila, I'm not after non-smokers. I AM a non-smoker. I'm after the non-smoking Nazis. Like the nuts in Boulder who recently arrested the entire cast of Grand Hotel on stage during a performance for smoking.
Gardner All the starlings in the US come from three breeding pairs released in Central Park in the 19th century. Maybe it'll be the same with minks in England.
Connie_Willis Yes, yes Gardner, rule #1 of life: Never introduce anything to get rid of something else. As witness the brown snake in Guam, the rabbit in Australia, and Kudzu. I think the most fascinating stories, come not from bad people doing bad things, but from mostly good people doing things without examining the consequences. Or understanding the consequences.
Gardner Yes, your story "Ado" is still, alas, very appropriate today.
Connie_Willis Which is why one of my favorite novels is Anthony Trollope's THE WARDEN. It should be required reading for all social do-gooders.
BlackCyberC A question from the Balcony: Connie, if you were not an author, what would you be?
Connie_Willis Oooh boy, Balcony, I originally started out as a teacher, elementary teacher. I could see myself, oh gosh, writers become writers because they can't imagine doing real jobs, but I guess I could see myself working as a seamstress or maybe an investigative reporter, and I'm very envious of the job my daughter has right now, she's a forensic scientist. And it's like being a latter-day Sherlock Holmes.
Gardner Connie--"never introduce anything to get rid of anything else": or Kenneth Starr. (g)
Sheila Don't laugh at Connie as seamstress. She makes wonderful costumes for small children
BlackCyberC A comment from mark: Connie, you're one of the few writers producing today that I can feel comfortable buying without preview, knowing that I'll enjoy and appreciate the work.
Connie_Willis Mark, I write mostly to please myself, and therefore I write what interests me and I hope it interests you. I get very involved in different ideas. Since Gardner mentioned Kenneth Starr, LOL, I'm really fascinated.. is how things get out of hand and take on a life of their own, for instance this whole mess in Washington, which I'm not sure anyone could shut down even if they tried.
Gardner That got out of hand, all right. So to speak. (g)
Sheila Will Kenneth Starr effect your fiction
Gardner How did you get started writing, Connie? How did you make the transition from teacher to published writer?
Connie_Willis Gardner...I taught for 2 years, intending always to be a writer.. but thinking I would also have to have a day job. Then I had a baby, quit to stay home with the baby and thought that was a good time to write. Ha ha ha. I wrote SF for 8 years with only one pathetic sale (and Gardner knows what that story was) and I also justified my existence by writing tawdry confession stories. For True Romance and True Confessions Magazine. They were great fun to write.
Sheila Not unlike writing about Monica
Gardner Yeah, it's like the kudzu and the mongooses. They introduced Kenneth Starr to get rid of Clinton, but now they're stuck with HIM, and those who'll follow in his footsteps. (g)
Gardner Connie, can you remember any of the True Confessions stories you wrote?
Connie_Willis They were sex and repent. Ah yes. I wrote a little number "I Called My Husband a Lousy Lover on TV," and that one had a tornado in it as I recall. I was very big on natural disasters. I also wrote one "Swept Away on a Torrent of Passion" about the big Thompson flood.
Gardner Want to tell them about your first sale? (g)
Connie_Willis Gardner bought my first SF story called, "The Secret Of Santa Titicaca" about sentient inca frogs. A truly pathetic story, Gardner, why did you buy that story?
Gardner You should have seen the REST of the stuff in the slush pile that month! (g) I found Joe Haldeman, George R.R. Martin, and Michael Bishop in that same slush pile with you, Connie. Not too bad. (g)
Sheila He knew you would be a multiple Hugo and Nebula winner someday
BlackCyberC A question from Mark: 2-phased question: Connie, are you able to have time for reading for your own enjoyment? If so, who do you read faithfully?
Connie_Willis Yes, Mark, I read all the time, I read tons outside the field, lots of history and mystery novels, especially Dorothy Sayers. And one of my favorite authors Sigrid Undset. Nobody's ever heard of her even though she won the Nobel prize in 1920, but her books are wonderful.
Gardner Connie, have you ever thought about writing a mystery novel?
Sheila Do current events, like the Simpson trial and Jonbenet influence your work
Connie_Willis In the field, I am going back and reading all the works of writers that I missed before. I just finished reading everything of Frederic Brown's and now I'm doing Ward Moore. Who wrote one of the best short stories of all time, called "LOT."
Gardner To say nothing of BRING THE JUBILEE.
Connie_Willis Gardner...it meant the world to me to sell that story. Except for that one, I had only 8 years of rejections.
Gardner You just didn't run into editors with good taste until me, Connie. (g)
Connie_Willis And I might even have quit without you. So if I haven't thanked you before, I do now. And also, thank you for Haldeman, Martin, Bishop and all the other terrific writers you found. Gardner... as far as mystery novel goes, as you know full well, most of my novels and short stories do have mystery plots. That's because I think it's much more interesting to figure out what is going on and what will happen next.
BlackCyberC Gand wants to know if there are any plans for a DOOMSDAY sequel
Connie_Willis Okay...Gand..yes there are plans for a sequel and this one will be about the Blitz, which is what the first Dunworthy Story FIREWATCH was about and it will have Mr. Dunworthy and Finch and John Bartholomew and I haven't decided the other characters from FIREWATCH. It won't be a direct sequel not a direct series because each book has different characters but they're loosely connected.
Gardner Couldn't TO SAY NOTHING ABOUT THE DOG be considered a sort-of tangential sequel to DOOMSDAY?
Connie_Willis Yes, it is, I wanted to write some more Dunworthy stuff. But I did not want to write DOOMSDAY over again. I was terrified of it becoming the many diseases of Kivrin series. Kivrin gets cholera. Kivrin gets yellow fever. Kivrin gets a really bad cold. So, I decided to do a comedy.
Gardner Kirvin meets Abbott and Costello...
Connie_Willis LOL!
BlackCyberC ROFL!
Gardner No, I mean a full-dress MYSTERY mystery. An English cozy, maybe.
Connie_Willis Gardner...it's always been a secret passion of mine, to write THE FOUNTAIN PEN MYSTERY which is the novel Harriet Vane was working on in HAVE HIS CARCASE. Gardner...yes.
Sheila Isn't Dorothy Sayers one of your favorite authors
Gardner Well, have you talked to the publisher of the Peter Whimsey books about the possibility? You're a big enough name now, they might go for it! I think you SHOULD write THE FOUNTAIN PEN MYSTERY!
Connie_Willis Gardner...I think I will write the FOUNTAIN PEN MYSTERY and then you'll have to wait some more for your novella.
Gardner Nah, write the novella FIRST!
Connie_Willis LOL, ok.
Gardner I bet you COULD sell the Harriet Vane mystery, though.
Connie_Willis It even has a title already, "The Winds of Marble Arch" and its set in the London Underground which is my favorite place in London except for St. Paul's. Ok.
Gardner I'll put you on a spot all writers hate, Connie. Which of your stories is your favorite?
Connie_Willis Gardner do you really want me writing other stuff not for you?
BlackCyberC LOL
Connie_Willis Oh that's easy.
Gardner No, but it would be an interesting book to read.
Connie_Willis FIREWATCH is the child of my heart. I don't necessarily think it's my best story, but it's my favorite.
BlackCyberC How long did it take to write that story?
Connie_Willis It took about 3 years...
Sheila We'll have to clone you to get all the stories we need.
Connie_Willis from the moment that I stood up in the dome of St. Paul's and realized that virtually everything around the Cathedral, for miles, had been burned down. I could not understand how the Cathedral survived. I still do not understand how the Cathedral survived. And every time I go to St. Paul's.. it hits me all over again. How nearly we lost it and how wonderful the firewatch was. LOL, Sheila.
Gardner In some alternate universe, you're probably a famous mystery writer by now, "the New Dorothy Sayers!" (g)
Connie_Willis Sheila, that would be just fine. Would you also clone a couple of me to do the dishes? Answer the phone. I could really use the help.
BlackCyberC We all could use a clone or 2!
Sheila And sew dresses for five-year-olds
Connie_Willis Gardner, do you LIKE Dorothy Sayers?
Gardner You should write a story from the perspective of the one of you who gets stuck washing the dishes while the "real" you writes!
Connie_Willis I think her mystery plots are terrible, but I love the comedy of manners she writes in her mysteries.
BlackCyberC A question from baryon: LIGHT Raid is an early favorite of mine, how do you think it has stood up over the years?
Sheila "Chance" has echoes of Gardner's idea
Connie_Willis Baryon, well Quebec, when we wrote LIGHT RAID we thought it was highly implausible that Quebec would secede from Canada. That seems more and more likely all the time and I just read an article, that said that if they did secede the Western Provinces were likely to join the United States, which was exactly what we had in the novel. So I guess that part has held up.
Gardner I like her well enough, Connie, although she's not even close to being my favorite mystery writer.
Connie_Willis Hmm...ok...who IS your favorite mystery writer Gardner?
BlackCyberC Ah, the tables have been turned!
Connie_Willis Thinking? One of my favorites is Agatha Christie who I think is badly underrated. She's very funny for one thing, but her plots...
Gardner I like a lot of them: Tony Hillerman, Dashiel Hammett, Raymond Chandler, Lindsey Davis, John D. McDonald, even Agatha Christie to some extent.
Connie_Willis are miraculous. She doesn't rely on timetables and obscure So. American poisons, she relies on common sense and on turning the reader's assumptions against him. She figures out what we assume and then she uses that to trick us. She's brilliant! Gardner...Raymond Chandler is another one of my..
Gardner You're very strong on plotting, so it's not surprising you like Christie. That was her main strength.
Connie_Willis favorites for two reasons. One I love his writing and Two I love his writing about writing. Most writers have no idea what they do or how they do it, but Chandler knows exactly what he's doing and I think his notes on writing are some of the best ever written by a writer.
Gardner But Chandler's plots make no sense at all! (g)
Connie_Willis LOL, that's true. There's even I think in THE BIG SLEEP, I think, a murder victim that even Chandler doesn't know who killed him.
Gardner Some of Christie's ideas--EVERYBODY did it; NOBODY did it; the DETECTIVE did it!--seem cliched now, but they were unique stuff then.
Connie_Willis The person who turns out to be the villain has an air-tight alibi, and there's simply nobody else who could have killed him. But who cares! He writes like an angel.
Sheila So, how does that prove Chandler knew exactly what he was doing?
Gardner It strikes me that you may read mystery more for plot; I read it mostly for local color and atmosphere. Tony Hillerman's plots are weak, too, but who cares? There's all that gorgeous local color!
Connie_Willis I think mysteries are very rarely read for the mystery itself. I think Agatha conjures up the English small town, and Dorothy Sayers does Oxford. Tony Hillerman does the southwest, Dashiel Hammet does the martini swilling New Yorkers of the '30s, and the interesting thing is none of them are really describing the real world.
Gardner He knew that if you can write REALLY REALLY well, you can get away with a hell of a lot! (g)
Connie_Willis Any more than a SF writer making up a planet. I think every writer creates a world that exists only in the pages of his book.
Gardner The same thing could work for SF mysteries, if you describe your milieu well enough.
Connie_Willis Like if we could go back to the 1850s, we would not find Dickens' London. Dickens' London is a London he made up, but that doesn't mean it's fake. I think literary worlds are more real...sort of hyper-real...
Gardner Bester's world in THE STARS MY DESTINATION, for instance, or Isaac Asimov's in THE CAVES OF STEEL
Connie_Willis than the real world which is just a muddle.
Gardner I agree, Connie.
BlackCyberC A question from Mark: Connie, I'm not at all sure that this was answered... you started out writing ("being paid") for slush... how in the world did you get into SF?
Connie_Willis Mark...I wanted into SF all along. The very first short stories I wrote were Science Fiction stories or SF. Unfortunately they weren't any good. And I had to practice on them and on the confessions, for 8 solid years 'till I got good enough to sell.
Sheila Science fiction seems like a more open form than mysteries. You can use the mystery for the sf plot, but not the other way around
Gardner What did you learn from doing all those confession stories? Plotting, maybe?
Connie_Willis Yes Gardner, the confessions were great for plotting. And I also learned how to do dialogue, and blocking and use of ordinary detail. You couldn't do much in the way of bizarre characters, and you had to keep everything very down to earth.
BlackCyberC A question from Marvin: Marvin wants to know what's the most important part of writting SF, plot, characters....what?
Connie_Willis And I think that was probably good. I agree that I think SF is the most free and open of all the genres. Romances you're tied to a single plot with a couple of variations. Western you're tied to a locale and a lot of conventions of detail. Mystery, the mystery has to be central, not the characterization. But in SF you can do anything! You can rewrite fairy tales, you can do history, you can do biology, you can do religion, you can do character driven stories, like Harlan Ellison's "Pretty Maggy Money Eyes." Or you can do adventures. Or you can do deep philosophical stuff, I mean you can do anything! My favorite thing to do in the world is romantic comedy. And I can't think of anywhere else on the planet where you can do it except for in Hollywood where they rarely do it right.
Gardner You've written a couple of stories based on old Romantic Comedy films. Any more you'd like to do?
Connie_Willis Gardner...yes...I want to do a Romantic Comedy about telepathy. I think it has possibilities or comedy, and I KNOW it has possibilities for Romance. Has anyone read Mary Stewart's TOUCH NOT THE CAT?
BG1818 Hello Connnie. I heard the room was open now.
Sheila I was just thinking of that one, but it isn't funny
Connie_Willis Hi BG! How are you! Did you survive Worldcon?
Marilee She looked great on Saturday, Connie. And you were very funny on Friday night.
Connie_Willis No, Sheila, it's not funny but it is romantic.
BG1818 Yes and I'll be sending you photos soon.
crGand I had my "Even the Queen" postcard postmarked with the Bucky postmark (g)
Connie_Willis Thank you Marilee. I was having a good time, and I'd like to apologize for taking Gardner's name in vain.
crGand LOL
TechCyberC ROFL!!!!
Marilee LOL
BG1818 Hey I got one of those postmarked too.
Connie_Willis Great!
Gardner Beth was dancing up a storm with Walter Jon Williams at the Bantam party.
BG1818 I thought it was fun.
Connie_Willis I had a wonderful time at Buckaneer and as a highlight...
Marilee Um, speaking of the postcards, I didn't see them. Any chance I could send you a SASE for a couple?
crGand There will always be beany-babies....
BG1818 Where can I get your books on tape Connie?
Gardner I tried to get some photos of her, but my eyes are shot, I'm afraid.
Connie_Willis my daughter took me down to Fellspoint to see where "Homocide" is filmed. And another highlight was the Liar's panel. I never thought I would be trading insults with Bob Silverberg. We had a great time. Absolutely, Marilee.
BG1818 I got a photo of that panel.
crMark Beth, I did a search at www.altavista.digital.com earlier on "Connie Willis" and found a few sites where you can get her books on audio.
Marilee Thanks! Through your publisher?
BG1818 the room was packed. I had to squeeze in just to take a photo.
Connie_Willis BG, ok, write and ask me and email and ask me and I'll get you the address.
Gardner You could have gone to see the diner where they filmed DINER too, Connie.
BG1818 Thanks Mark. I appreciate that.
crMark Sure t'ing! :)
Connie_Willis Yes, Marilee, that would be fine.
BG1818 OK! I'll put it on the back of the postcards I'm sending you.
Connie_Willis And I'm going to have to leave in a couple of minutes. It was great talking to everyone...
BG1818 Well it's been fun reading your chat.
Connie_Willis If you haven't done so already, go out and read IMMEDIATELY..
Gardner Yes, you have to go write my novella...
crMark It was a joy having you here with us, Connie.
crGand Thanks for writing such great stories, Connie!
Connie_Willis a book by Sigrid Undset or Charles Williams or Sayers! I recommend starting with STRONG POISON
Sheila Thanks a lot for joining us. I hope this was easier than your drive home will be
crMark Gardner, you're SHAMELESS! :)
crGand Thanks, Connie!!!
Gardner You don't last long in this job if you're not, Mark. (g)
crMark LOL!
Connie_Willis In parting....
Gardner Where are you driving home from, Connie?
Connie_Willis I will say that I plan to write the novella as I drive...
J3ff Hi, Connie. There's something I've been curious about for quite a while. Are you sometimes known as S.N. Dyer? Or am I just nuts? (Or both)
Connie_Willis except for when my husband...
BG1818 Gee how to do you write and drive at the same time"
TechCyberC And next driving while writing will be illegal?
Gardner You're going to have a typewriter set up on the dashboard?
Connie_Willis and I are in Nevada. Then we plan to play video poker and recoup our losses. We lost 160 on the way out.
crGand ouch
Connie_Willis And No and I don't mean $160, I mean a $1.60.
crGand LOLOL
BG1818 Good luck I think you will need it.
Connie_Willis And I am DETERMINED to get it back...
J3ff Our state motto is Help Keep Nevada Green. Thx for coming!
Connie_Willis as we go through Nevada in the other direction. Thanks for a great chat!
Marilee LOL
Connie_Willis Talk to you all again soon I hope.
TechCyberC Thank you Connie! Loved it!
Gardner Jeff, Connie is NOT S.N. Dyer, I happen to know, although I'm sure S.N. Dyer would be flattered.
BlackCyberC Folks, lets thank Connie for coming out here tonight
J3ff Sorry, thought the styles were similar
crGand Thanks Connie. :::::Mad applause:::::
Connie_Willis Goodnight!
crMark Connie, get with Tech later and he'll set you up with mIRC... then you can come and play ALL THE TIME! :)
Gardner Thank you, Connie! Drive safely! Write my novella!
NOVELS BY CONNIE WILLIS
